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  1. stephenwood4258

    This article is extremely interesting to me. I have lived in the area and worked in the forest here for over 20 years. I think I know about as much as any about the area. The reservations for the Cow Creek Indians are shown accurately on maps of the time but the first reservation (1853) description of boundaries is wrong. Too much to go into here. The second reservation (1855) on upper Garden Valley/ Coles Valley has the boundaries correct but no description of these boundaries. Of course both reservation are placed primarily on steep useless land! Still I am excited to find this
    historical web page or site and want to share my years of studying the pioneers as well as the natives in my “back yard”. Stephen Wood

  2. stephenwood4258

    The picture included in the article is probably not Cow Creek. It looks allot like the main stem of the Umpqua. Also no falls now exist on Cow Creek and Riddles land in Riddle does not coincide with the confluence of Council Creek and Cow Creek. This is my second comment. Stephen Wood

  3. Umpqua-4 Freedom

    Just read the article and the comments. Why does this guy Wood, care where the boundaries really are, enough to challenge YOU, a Native Historian with a degree, for Pete’s sake?? Makes me wonder WHO he is or WHO he is connected to at our Tribe. I never trust our Tribe anymore, they are as corrupt as it gets. If they have their eye on a certain piece of land for some reason, and your estimation of where the original reservation was affects their plans in negative way…they will HIRE someone to disgrace you. Trust me, that is how they work!!
    Anyway, hope you can find out who this guy is and why he cares so much to challenge you like that! Dawn
    On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 5:26 PM NDNHISTORY RESEARCH : Indigenous, Public & Critical Essays wrote:
    > Ethnohistory Research, LLC | David G. Lewis, PhD posted: “The Cow Creek > Umpquas were a Takelman speaking tribes of native peoples related to the > Takelma peoples of the Rogue river valley. The Cow Creek peoples resided in > the Cow Creek watershed and parts of the southeastern Umpqua Valley. In > 1853, Joel Palmer” >

    • I don’t mind. But there are so many erroneous stories out there about the history. That all accounts that are not verified I usually try to verify before just accepting them. There is usually a grain of truth. And so much if even the federal story is simply wrong that we cannot even trust the descriptions in the treaties. What they plan to do and what they did are usually different. I have found additional stories of the Cow Creeks that I plan to write up soon.

      • qitrodz

        Stephen, I would like to encourage you to continue with your opinions. Mr. Lewis seems to be open to those in the know. But we know that many are ingrained in fearfulness, so we should just make the case, and all for the trial of studied consideration. I know this is long after your post, but I’m hoping that you will still reconsider. Some should wait until the fact are ALL in, rather than jump to conclusions. Blessings.

  4. qitrodz

    Why is Umpqua-4 Over Sensitivity offended over an opinion, I guess this is his virtual signaling gone amok I was looking forward to hearing what Stephen had to say. But I guess they don’t observe Free speech on the Cow Creek Nation, or at least a small contingent don’t. Seems very fearful to me. Let’s not be fearful that we might have accepted some mis-truths and it needs to be corrected. “…chips fall where they may?”

    qitrodz@yahoo.com

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